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not believe -- you can say the same thing for the obama white house -- they think america's undertaxed and the tax rates can go dramatically higher despite these examples in europe without it hurting economic growth. i think they are completely wrong. i think you can draw just the opposite conclusion of what's going on in europe. but apparently we're going down that route anyway. >> isn't that why president obama wants to raise the tax rate? he raises the tax rate in order to spend. seems to me that taxing and spending is his mantra, just like the east european mantra and the california and new york -- why would you want to raise the tax rate $1.6 trillion if youp didn didn't want to spe? that's a big number. >> it is. jared bernstein was in "the new york times" complaining about the tax cutting in this country over the past 30 years. and jared says, we've gutted the tax code, we're just not getting enough revenue for all the spending we want. >> i would gut the tax code of all its special deductions and loopholes and whatnot and take the rate down to about 15%. i am a flat tax guy. wh
that, huh? >> and you can tell how confident president barack obama knows how positive his polls are on his side of this issue. but on the game where he's campaigning publicly and negotiating privately. as you said meeting with john boehner at the white house yesterday. and clearly the president is meeting with republicans and then checking back with democrats. we see this pattern now a couple of times last week he met with or spoke to boehner. and then met with nancy pelosi, the democratic leader on capitol hill. today we're told he had a phone call on air force one from harry reid. presumably to go over what it is their hashing out behind the scenes. a public and private scene going on here. >> they don't have to be face to face to keep the negotiations going. thank you. and as we get closer to the cliff's edge, a number of republicans in congress say they would be willing to accept tax increases on the wealthiest americans if they are accompanied by large enough spending cuts. >> one of those is tom cole who is a republican from oklahoma who joins us now live from capitol hill
obama lights the national christmas tree outside the white house. house speaker john boehner said today that he's still waiting for a response from the white house on the g.o.p. deficit reduction proposal. they spoke to reporters in the capitol for about 10 minutes. >> good morning everyone. you know, this week, we made a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis and that offer included significant spending cuts and reforms and included additional revenue. and frankly, it was the balanced approach that the president's been asking for. now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. our targets and framework are things that we can all agree on. and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white hou
boehner at the white house, president obama extended a little olive branch in avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> i have said i will work with republicans on a plan for economic growth, job creation and reducing our deficits. and had some common western democrats and republicans, i understand people have a lot of different views, i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> the white house would not disclose any details of the meeting with the president and the speaker yesterday. both sides confirming communications are open. speaker john boehner saying discussions are taking place. liz: maybe the fact they're keeping quiet may mean something is really going to happen. keep dreaming. >> does politics have to watch out what is happening in silicon valley. apple and google compete on so many different rounds. but they're actually coming together to co-compete on a bid for the patents that kodak holds. 1100 patents, half a billion dollars. they realize instead of sitting across from each other playing and outbidding one another, we will work together and co-compete for these and work together to g
that makes it harder. >> and tell us something about the obama white house that we don't know. >> what does obama think of mitt romney? what does he really think? and i think he feels that romney is incompetent because he didn't run a better campaign. and i suspect that one of the themes in all the coverage of the campaign is going to be romney never found a way to -- either the method or the theme of how to run against obama. whereas they thought it was going to be easy. >> we're about to give the hook here. what is the one thing you would like to know about president obama that you don't? >> oh, i did ask him this. i didn't put it in the book. he keeps a diary. and so i'd like to have access. [laughter] >> assume that's for -- >> do you keep a diary? yes. not on all this detailed kind of -- let's see it. so that's going to -- i'm sure he will write a really interesting memoir. >> what did he tell you about the diary? >> that it existed. no detail. he didn't offer any of it or read from it or anything like that. i'm -- is it dictated? is it written? you know ronald reagan kept his deiry th
done in 2011. if you remember, math by details in the sitdown between boehner and obama last year. boehner's office wouldn't write the number 800 billion in its initial offer to the white house because they didn't want other house republicans to see that. the fact that that figure is on the table and boehner is taking to the air waives to say, you know who's going to get soaked here? the rich. is a shocking reversal of where the republican party was i agree ago. >> look at this. these are some smart conservatives. byron york in "the weekly standard," and john padora, bill kristol are all saying the republicans have to do something. they're playing a losing hand. fedoris writes, every way you look at it, the gop is trapped. republican politicians will cave and give the president most of what he wants. the only real question is, when? the answer is, probably at the worst possible time when they've done even more damage to the party's brand. governor, if you were a republican today, would you sitting down say, you know we have to eat this, deal with this top 2%, we can't be seen as h
. >> but as the holidays draw closer, u.s. president barack obama and his family have lit the national christmas tree outside the white house. >> it is an annual tradition dating back to 1923. this year's giant blue spruce is new and will remain planted outside the white house throughout the year. the tree is lit by 450 strands of alley delights and 120 star ornaments. >> that looks like a fun party. >> beautiful christmas in the white house for sure. that is all we have run out. thanks for watching. >> do not forget, you can find more on our website at dw.de. see you soon.
, president obama and house speaker john boehner sat down at the white house yesterday. they talked. so let's bring in brianna keilarment she is live in washington. so congress is scheduled to break for the holidays later this week. where do we go from here? how are these talks? >> we don't know. that's the thing. we know they spoke. in fact, it's somewhat remarkable that both the white house and speaker boehner's office put out statements simply saying that the two men had spoken. the lines of communication are open. and they were the same verbatim. that is something you can look at as some progress, perhaps. certainly it is promising may be the better way to put it. there is coordination there. they seem to be talking in good faith, trying to keep, i guess, their cards very close to the vest. and that is something that maybe is seen as promising. again, there is no word on actual progress on the fact that they're closer to a deal. and officially at this point, house republicans are still unwilling to bend to the president's demand that those income tax rates for wealthier americans increa
'm using them for the rest of the show. thank you, greg. >>> boehner ripped into president obama, speaker boehner calling the white house fiscal plan a joke. senator ron johnson is on the budget committee. he joins us. good evening, sir. >> greta, how you doing? >> greta: very well, and calling the plan a joke, i guess he is not going to beat around the bush for us. >> unfortunately, greta, president obama pretty well holds all the cards in this negotiation. if he wants to have tax increases or tax rates go up, i don't see how republicans can stop him, you know, because everybody's taxes are going to increase if congress does nothing, and president obama is the only person that can sign a bill into law and quite honestly, senator harry reid is the only person in the senate that can pass a bill in the senate as well. it sounds like people like howard dean want everybody's taxes to go up. maybe we should feel fortunate that president obama only wants the top two% to g two percent t. >> greta: do you anticipate republicans will vote for a rate increase if this should come to a vote? >> i don
in the white house with more. >> president obama said look, if republicans agree to my tax plan, we can get this deal done in a week.3 john boehner is waiting on the president, he says he's read hey to meet with the president at any time. we asked the president obama plan on calling the speaker or inviting the speaker to the white house and we haven't gotten a response. what is dumbing this all up is the tax rate increase. >> were not insisting on rates out of spite for any kind of partisan victory. but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> an obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. what will solve the problem is doing something about the entitlements, taking on wasteful spending in washington. speak up for the fiscal cliff is part of the half trillion dollars in cuts to the pentagon. the defense has been saying we will not plan for sequestration's because they don't want to be cautious because it is like a gun to the head. they're now looking into planning for this because we are getting pretty late, and that may become a reality. back to you.
. >>> standoff on the fiscal cliff. house speaker boehner meeting with president obama at the white house. but what will it take to get a compromise deal? republican senator john thune will be our guest host for the hour. >> plus starwood hotel ceo frits van paaschen on the effects of the fiscal cliff and avoiding the european recovery model. >> we know big ben. >> parliament. >> the third hour of "squawk box" begins right now. >>> welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc. first in business worldwide i'm joe kernen along with becky quick. andrew ross sorkin is off today. we have a big lineup this hour. sitting in andrew's seat our guest host, senator john thune. he is with us for the hour to talk about the fiscal cliff. talk about jobs. and a lot more. we're also going to speak to the president of telemundo media. emilio row mano. we're going to convene an economic summit to tackle america's debt crisis and outline growth scenarios for 2013. in addition to solving our budget problems and the fiscal cliff, we're also going to figure out how it affects the hotel industry with starwood's ho
said republicans are raising a white flag as big as a bed sheet. is that how you see it? >> it is interesting if you look at the negotiations that president obama offered this massive tax increase with no concessions and this sort of outrageous request on the debt limit which was a really aggressive first offer. and then the republican s countered with a moderate reasonable plan exactly modeled after a proposal by erskine bowles. so if you're trying to handicap the negotiations, you'd have to concede that dana is on to something. >> really. so -- >> at least like the starting point. so basically the starting point for the republicans is what president obama probably would have viewed as a victory if they had the negotiation. >> yeah, he wanted another 400 supposed supposedly. how does simpson-bowles get to -- how does it raise revenue? what's the number that it raises? >> well, it depends because they have a bunch of different simpson-bowles plans. like in the bowles-simpson report, there are three different tax plans and then the thing that the republicans modeled after
, president obama, the white house projection last offer -- \[inaudible] 53% of americans will blame republicans in congress if you go over the fiscal cliff. how long can you have that hard line on those making 250 and above. >> america faces a very serious problem and our goal is to make sure it gets solved. we have a debt problem that is out of control. we have got to cut spending and i believe it is appropriate to the receive news we are putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more -- more of their money to the federal government without raising the tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. \[inaudible question] >> i think our members understand the seriousness of the situation that our country faces. trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. $16 trillion of debt on the books. every man, woman and child owing the american government $50,000 and that number is increasing every single year. as a result, our members understand that we've got to solve the pr
avoid the white house. blaming them for a crash over taxes on the rich. >> the white house is ready for christmas. michelle obama gave tour of the president decorations and that is not it. >> chris: charles, you always want the video and the script to match. i didn't see anything like that. that is "special report" for now. no online show tonight. i'm chris wallace in washington. keep it here on fox where more news is always on the way. >> shepard: this is the "fox report." tonight after years of failed attempts, north korea successfully launchs its first long range missile. and potential new threat to our nation. plus, the shooting at the mall. ♪ >> shepard: a witness says the gunman announced "i am the shooter." and then opened fire. >> i knew at that point we needed to lock up and get over the the back of the store. >> i got up and i started running. >> everyone got up and was tripping over one another. >> the mall packed with thousands of holiday shoppers when it happened. >> he was armed with an ar-15 semi-automatic rifle. we believe he was carrying several fully loaded magaz
a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis. now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. >> this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> with which i agree but i think the risk here for the gop is that they become the party of rich people. and i think you saw that in the election. i don't think that is their intent. i think their intent is quite sound. >> they are becoming the party of rich white older men. you can't think of any other section of the community right now thinking the republican party is for me. >> i think that is why the politics of this make it possible to go over the cliff. i think the democrats see
. we have a bright side yesterday when john boehner came here to the white house. house speaker to talk to president obama. first individual one on one meeting since the election and that meeting and some other signals that have been sent publicly by both parties have caused some noted skeptics of us getting a fiscal cliff deal. >> i think the atmospherics are getting so much better. we've gotten out after ka bookie theater and gone to dancing the tango with those two guys. any time you start to tango, you have a chance. >> chances of getting it done now are better. i think that's what's key. >> part of that tango is republicans cracking on tax rates. that's what president obama will be talking about in michigan today. keeping the public pressure on. but the part for the administrator point of view, tyler, is what do they live john boehner so he can bring his troops along, entitlement, spending cuts, to tell their members we got a good deal. >> john, i find it curious to find that president spent as much time as he has on the road trying to drum up support for this deal. we just had an
disappeared. he is 6'1", 210 pounds, white hair and blue eyes. he was last seen saturday evening working on his tugboat. . >>> president obama traveled to michigan today to try to sell his plan for pulling the country back from the fiscal cliff. he spoke to workers at a auto engine plant. he said lawmakers need to make some tough spending cuts on things we don't need. but he said he is determined to keep tax breaks in place for the middle class while raising taxes for higher earning americans. >> i won't compromise on. i am not going to have a situation where the wealthiest among us, including folks like me get to keep all our tax breaks and we are asking students to pay higher student los. >> republicans insist cuts to entitlement programs should be on the table. they must act before december 31 to avoid the fiscal cliff. >>> on wall street today, the dow is up 14 to 13,169. the nasdaq is up 8 at 2,986. the s&p is up 0.48 at 1,418. >>> the pentagon identified a navy s.e.a.l. killed over the weekend while rescuing a doctor held captive in afghanistan. he died during the raid. it freed th
claimed they got classified documents from the obama administration to make this movie. the white house denied it. "zero dark thirty" opens nationwide on january 11th. >> we have a jam packed hour straight ahead on "early start," including roof comes down after a near monsoon. it happened on live tv. >> look at that guy's face and listen to him. >> you all okay? >> crazy, this as severe storms whipped across the south. we are going to talk to the crew who witnessed this whole thing. that's coming up. >>> plus, have you seen this woman? the search for the real mona lisa. did a real life indiana jones find her tomb? and is she still smirking? ben wedeman takes us there. >>> but first, wait for this. a monkey in a coat. where was this cute primate spotted and where on earth did he get that jacket? the answer to this in all the morning's crucial questions coming up next. >> that is so cute. ok this isn't my first christmas. these deals all seem great at the time... but later... [ shirt ] merry christmas, everybody! not so much. ho ho ho! this isn't that kind of deal. [ male announcer ] brea
the environment, protecting us from global warming which is real and we need leadership coming from the white house every day saying we need to do something about global warming. that hasn't happened yet. my hope is in president obama's second term he'll be the leader of the world and not lagging behind the other nations in doing something about global warming. >> you're a nuclear engineer at one point, promoted nuclear energy. how do you make the distinction between nuclear energy for good use, good purposes, and for bad use? and iran's argument that they are creating nuclear energy for power and not as a threat to the united states, speak to the link between energy and national security. >> i was in charge of a development of the second atomic submarine and i was an early nuclear physicist. that was my graduate work. i had what's convinced then and now nuclear power for peaceful purposes. it ought to be not for wars or bops but for producing power. at same time in needs to be safe. we never had anybody hurt in the country because of a nuclear accident. i was president when three mile island
that the full interview with president obama and the first lady will air on friday on "20/20" and "nightline." a cool tradition that barbara gets to sit down in the white house during the holidays and talk to both. certainly no shortage of topics as 2012 winds down. >> but yet the platform is not like she gets extended time for it. "20/20" is still the same amount of time, even though topics are -- >> we'll be back. stay with us. >>> well, this is big. there's a potential breakthrough for millions of people suffering with depression. >> it's not a pill. it's actually an iv treatment and patients who tested it are showing remarkable progress. abc's chief health and medical editor dr. richard besser has more. >> reporter: a lifetime of depression. lifting in just a few minutes. dennis, suffering for years, had tried pretty much every antidepressant on the market. no response. have you tried treatments? >> they've never helped me at all. >> reporter: but at the national institutes for health, they're trying out a whole new class of antidepressant, drugs that may offer a new path to fighting dep
that just before president obama took effect, white house figures show the federal budget was $2.9 trillion. next year's estimate is going to be $3.8 trillion. this is a 31% increase in spending in just four years. we have someone as the president, our great president, who is hung up on taxing and spending. what we need is a house of representatives that's hung up on jobs and job creation. the american product. entrepreneurship. creativity. competition with the world. the next new great ideas. not that will come from this body but from the creativity of the american people. this is what republicans are trying to keep alive in our country. the idea of self-reliance and working hard and taking care of people that are not just in your house but are in your neighborhood. your cities. our states, the vibrancy of our country. and we are headed over the fiscal cliff after four years of leadership from this president who is running, running directly to the fiscal cliff. has even said, and secretary of treasury said, we don't mind jumping off this cliff. mr. speaker, we should not be having that kin
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from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> house speaker boehner saying that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans, larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate is because, come the fiscal cliff moment, that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> speaking as a reagan conservative, i must say i rather agree with you. probably shouldn't. but i do. i think divided government is very difficult. and there's some principles that speaker boehner is fighting for, with which i actually agree. but i think politically, the risk here for the gop, is they've become the party of rich people. and they give up the middle-class to the democrats. and i think you saw some of that in the presidential election. i don't think that's their inten
% of wealthy americans. >>> and president obama met privately with house speaker john boehner at the white house over the weekend. it was their first one-on-one meeting since the crisis. >>> 8:06. a federal judge expected to approve a plan to give control of the oakland police department to a court-appointed director. this comes after oakland failed to meet a federal judge's order to make reforms agreed to in the settlement of the riders police brutality case. the director will have the power to spend city money, change police procedures and if the police department continues to fail to make reforms even fire the police chief. >>> well, a man accused of shooting and killing a driver in a road-rage incident is talking now. brian jones is in the sacramento county jail. now, he admitted he fired shots at another driver in sacramento. it happened after jones says his sister said she was being followed by someone she didn't know saturday morning. she called brian for help. jones admit, he cut off the driver then he -- then, he claims the driver came after him with his car. >>> at that time i wa
privately resumed before john boehner and the white house. the "wall street journal" says this breaks a new week long silence as that deadline looms. president obama and boehner spoke by phone on wednesday. they promised to renew the negotiations. several top executives have also weighed in on thursday. >> there's been some movement. everybody realizes there has to be a revenue component, spend component, entitlement reform component. >> patrick, where does it hang on now for you? clearly the president last decided there has to be tax rises for the wealthy. if the democratic side can come up with entitlement cuts, maybe we get a deal. >> i think this is pure political theater. this is a situation that was created 18 months ago in order for the politicians to get by the election. now they've done so. we still confront the same fiscal unsustainability here in the united states that's been evident to everybody for the the past five, six years. what we all recognize is we need more revenue, we needless spending, it's really a matter of a couple of adults getting in a room and figuring out how t
a little more campaigning. president obama heads to northern virginia this afternoon. the white house says he will meet with a middle class family to press congress to protect those making less than $250,000 a year from tax increases and raise rates on those making more. house republicans return to their congressional districts. they will meet with small business owners to underscore how they say tax rate increases will hit those business, jon. jon: are they still hung up on taxes? is that the big sticking point? >> yes. taxes are the key to this debate. republicans say they will increase tax revenue through cutting tax deductions. democrats say tax rates have to increase for families earning more than $250,000 a year. they're demanding republicans pass their tax plan. >> neither president obama nor democrats in cop guess have ever been ambiguous about our proposal to provide economic security for 98% of the american families and 97% of the small businesses while asking the wealthiest 2% to contribute just a little more to stop this run away debt. >> what the president is really interested
. boehner responded with a plan that largely sticks by his original offer a week ago. reports say the white house has told republicans it would include an overhaul of corporate taxes in any budget deal which it hasn't put on the table before. in an interview with abc news, president obama says he still expects a deal before the end of the year. >> i remain optimistic that there are enough people of goodwill who recognize the economy will be better off. american families will be better off if we get this done. the most important thing we can do is make sure that middle-class taxes do not go up on january 1. i'm confident that republicans would not hold middle-class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> you see president obama's full interview with barbara walters friday on "20/20." boehner is demanding more details on spending cuts. the administration has made expensive proposals to reduce spending, but the republicans haven't offered specifics on revenue hikes. >>> today the federal reserve wraps up its two-day meeting with a decision at 12:30 eastern foll
. on "money" we discuss the some ceos formally spoke out against president obama's policies after the election doing about face and backing him. tastid-light founder, and white castle and fast signs ceo join me on 5:00 eastern on fox business. lori: thompson, thanks. is the stock market pricing in a tumble over the fiscal cliff? losh abet senior economist and market strategist milton miss rought at this breaks it down with tracy and ash. stick around >> gold bars i suppose. >> i would be buying gold bars and real estate. >> under the mattress. >> let it all go. ashley: nothing wrong with those. not at all. >> and on that note --, take it away. ashley: thank you, ladies. as lori just said, drifting along. market up by 11 points. good afternoon, i'm ashley webster. tracy: i'm tracy byrnes. political theater over the fiscal cliff. how a senate battle over the presidential power around the debt ceiling could shape the cliff talks going forward. ashley: apple shares up today, but still down more than 20% from the all-time high less than three months ago. now is the time to buy. is there more downsi
-- monday night at 8:00 eastern on the communicators. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner met at the white house today to discuss ongoing negotiations over the impending fiscal cliff. both men agree to not release details of the conversation. last tuesday, former joint chiefs chairman admiral mike mullen called on congress to avert the so-called fiscal cliff and lay a framework for a debt reduction and economic growth over the next two years. he spoke of a forum hosted by the coalition for fiscal and national security. this is about 45 minutes. >> all set? good afternoon. thank you for coming. my name is pete peterson. i want to give you first a review of our foundation and why we are supporting the project you will hear about today. starting about 30 years ago, after starting the profound demographic trend and the vast unfunded promises we had made, i decided that our projected long term, and i emphasize long-term paths were not only unsustainable but the primary threat to our future. speaking of unsustainable, in the next white house in which i served, the chairman of the co
anybody out there. bill daley was the white house chief of staff under president obama during the debt ceiling negotiations last year. mr. daley, thank you very much for joining us this morning. >> thanks for having me. >> reporter: we were just trying to figure out what to make of this. all morning long we've been saying it's relatively good news that we haven't within hearing from the principalprincipals. what does it mean now that speaker boehner is going to be addressing the house at noon. >> i think it's a strong sign there is movement. i don't know that. i'm not on the inside. i don't know what's going on. i doubt the speaker is going to stand up and speak to the body and say nothing's happening and we're not going anywhere and just give a partisan speech. so i'm hopeful that that's what this means. i think it would be damaging to a process that has been basically as it was in '11, a pretty quiet going process kept in secret if all the sudden this becomes anything but that process. i think a very public negotiation does not help getting this done. in what is a relatively very sho
deadline. president obama spoke on the phone with house speaker john boehner on wednesday while his treasury secretary said the white house is, in fact, ready to go straight over the fiscal cliff. major garrett is at the white house. major, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, norah and charlie. later on this afternoon the president will travel across the potomac river to northern virginia to meet a middle-class family to make the self-evident point if the there is a deal and taxes are raised by about $2,000 they'll be happier and spend more money. that's the p.r. side of this. much more importantly, for the deal, the two key players yesterday picked up the phone. the phone call relatively brief and substantive, though details remain illusive. shorter, sources say. the last week 28-minute conversation described then as curt, direct and frank. no one with this call used such barbed words and occurred before treasury secretary tim geithner laid down this harsh fiscal cliff marker. >> if the administration, are they prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. no prospect o
of the president's visit. melissa: peter barnes, thank you so much. president obama and speaker john boehner are talking, signs of progress or more of the same? it worked in the white house, we're pleased to be joined by some economic writer for the "wall street journal." let's start with these comments from a republican from tennessee known to be reasonable suggesting increase the tax rates on the wealthiest 2% to move on and talk about entitlements getting a little it is realistic to see the deal that might alternately happen? >> hi, lori and melissa. do you think you wil you'll havw december 31? i think this thing will stretch out maybe a few hours before plunging off a cliff. lori: anybody who thinks it will be an easy newsday is mistaken. >> you and i talked about it a week or two ago the thing that is amazing is they are not getting closer, they're getting further apart. melissa: at me sitting there for their part? >> i think he is emboldened by the election returns obviously and emboldened by the polls showing public and higher tax rates on the rich that he has become much less willin
but say the lines of communication remain open. president obama heads to detroit to visit a daimler plant. >>> several republicans are now saying conservative lawmakers have no choice but to give in to the white house demands to raise tax breaks on the wealthy if they want to achieve their main goal of entitlement reform. >> there are a growing group of thugs looking at this and realizing we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issues before year-end. >> will i accept the tax increase as part of a deal to solve our problems? yes. >> senate republicans are facing opposition to their tax concessions in the house and democrats haven't been too receptive to their idea owes entitlement reforms. for more on this, jens is still with us. we've got, what, two working weeks until the end of the year. what's your base view here as to how this plays out? >> our base case is that we will get a type of deal probably later until the year. so i don't think it will be much of a christmas holiday for the key negotiators. i would say 60% to 70% probability that we get that pancake deal. then t
national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> president obama travels to michigan today. he will be speaking to autoworkers in a plant outside detroit about extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class. the president met with john boehner at the white house to discuss a deal to avoid the automatic tax increases and spending cuts that are set to kick in at the beginning of next year. we will have live coverage of the prison in michigan starting at 2:00 p.m. eastern. -- the president in michigan starting at 2:00 p.m. eastern. at 5:30 p.m. eastern, how u.s. debt, economic growth, and baby boomers retiring could lead to political and economic change. also, the u.s. senate meets today to continue debate on extending insurance on higher deposit announced. live coverage begins at 2:00 p.m. eastern on c-span2. the house gavels in a tomorrow. we will have live coverage tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. >> i think people still love discovery. they are ready to find the price -- find surprises. every month or every year i google about some show that people are talking about that you cou
'll respond favorably to the conservative message. barack obama wasn't the first one. again, this idea that he was the first one to invite jorge and jose diaz-balart to the white house, you know, i was in the bush administration. i remember president bush being extremely good with spanish-language media. i mean, we -- president bush in the campaign in 2000-2004 was extraordinary in terms of the latino media. can latinos forget? absolutely. i mean, you mentioned pete wilson debacle in california. well, only a few years later, george w. bush was winning with 40-44% of the latino vote, 2004. only eight years ago. >> not in california. >> not in california. >> not california, that's right. not california. >> he blew. >> not california. not california, not new york, that's right. but we were extremely competitive. i don't think latinos have forgotten about that. i think latinos understand that ronald reagan was the last one to pass immigration reform. they understand that george w. bush worked very hard for immigration reform, and i think what we allow ourselves is for a small group within the gop
and president obama and john boehner spoke on the phone days after republicans offered a hundred billion dollars of tax revenue. republicans say they're waiting on a counteroffer from the white house. back to you. dennis: should republicans hold out and let us go over the fiscal click? john brown of euro pacific capital is with us and former adviser to british prime minister margaret thatcher and he joins us with his take. thanks for being with us. do you think we are going over the cliff? >> cliff of sorts. the fiscal cliff was created by politicians who lack the courage to do the best for the american people. and already has done severe damage to the economy. now we have democrats who want to suck money out of the economy in tax and we have rhino republicans in name only who wants spending cuts. both those things will do damag% to the economy and any compromise will damage the economy and push it further into deep recession. neither side discusses the real problem which is the enormous costs of big government. cost in money and regulations and intrusion. neither side discusses that because the
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